Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby Folsoml » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:24 am

Here is the final product.
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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby The_Paragon » Mon May 07, 2012 9:55 pm

Folsoml wrote:OK, so this is only a vent. That's good. I'm not yet to the point of assembling/installing the carb to know what it did, I only know mine was broken.

I made version of what you did, and it is set up drying right now.


CB650, Can you post a pick of what you made?

I started out pulling my carb rack apart to replace o-rings in the fuel supply connectors and accl pump connectors and found my bike had nothing on it at all besides for a solid tube between the #2 and #3 carbs.

No wonder my carbs dirtied as fast as they do, these ports vent right to the bowls.

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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby The_Paragon » Mon May 07, 2012 10:36 pm

Maybe I should flip to the last page before asking for pics. The vent tube you have looks like it should work Folsoml. I might have to try something like that

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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby The_Paragon » Mon May 07, 2012 10:51 pm

OK heres an idea..
All 4 carb bowls are all vented together via this system of tubes and T's, What if a guy were to connect the carbs by replacing the T's with a peice of fuel tubing and then install 1 T between carbs 2&3 where there's enough room to stick a plastic T and a line up to vent.

All 4 carbs are connected and still vented together..

It should work right?

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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby Volker_P » Tue May 08, 2012 12:55 am

You really want to drill the carbs just to save one "T"? :shock:
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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby cb650 » Tue May 08, 2012 3:25 am

The_Paragon wrote:
Folsoml wrote:OK, so this is only a vent. That's good. I'm not yet to the point of assembling/installing the carb to know what it did, I only know mine was broken.

I made version of what you did, and it is set up drying right now.


CB650, Can you post a pick of what you made?

I started out pulling my carb rack apart to replace o-rings in the fuel supply connectors and accl pump connectors and found my bike had nothing on it at all besides for a solid tube between the #2 and #3 carbs.

No wonder my carbs dirtied as fast as they do, these ports vent right to the bowls.

Thanks for pics if you can CB650!

The carbs are on my parts motor now but next time they are off I'll try and remember.
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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby The_Paragon » Tue May 08, 2012 6:06 pm

Volker_P wrote:You really want to drill the carbs just to save one "T"? :shock:


I never said anything about drilling the carbs.

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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby Volker_P » Wed May 09, 2012 1:13 am

All right, there seems to be a straight tube (to be repalced by a "T" then) between 2+3 at this level, too.
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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby gentlemanjim » Wed May 09, 2012 3:07 am

You guys realy need to post pics of what you are talking about.

Here's the assembly
1. there are two small rubber "T"s between 1&2 and 3&4 - bowl vents.
2. There are 3 about 3/8" tubes connecting carb 1 with 2 with 3 has a "T" and 3 with 4 with "O" rings. these are the fuel deliver rails from the fuel tank feed line.
3. There are 3 tubes about 1/4" with "O" rings connecting carbs 1 with 2 and 2 with 3 and 3 with 4 - these are accelerater pump delivery lines

The "O" rings are critical and when you assemble the carbs the linkage has a tab with a spring and two washers at the end. It is critical that the washers be separate and slipped over the maiting tabin on the adjacent carbs. This is tricky while still being certain the "O" rings are not pinched. Takes two people for sure.

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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby Volker_P » Wed May 09, 2012 3:15 am

Try this picture:
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As I understood The_Paragon wants to replace the center tube "21" with a single "T" and then use straight tubes instead of the two "T's" in red cicles "22".

#7 : fuel tank feed lines
#4+8 : accelerator pump delivery lines
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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby gentlemanjim » Wed May 09, 2012 3:32 am

Nice work Volker_P

To make that change seems it would meed with unlikely success, a lot of work to get the critical dimensions correct. The parts are redily available at hondaparts-direct for about $90.00

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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby The_Paragon » Wed May 09, 2012 12:51 pm

Volker_P wrote:Try this picture:
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As I understood The_Paragon wants to replace the center tube "21" with a single "T" and then use straight tubes instead of the two "T's" in red cicles "22".


You got it Volker, but after a bit of thought, I realize that wont actually work, Carbs 1 and 4 wont be properly vented that way.

What I ended up doing was used some fuel tubing to connect the carbs where the t's were. the peice of fuel tubing has a hole in the side in which a vacuum tube splice is inserted with of vacuum tube attached to the splice. It creates an adequate vent, and functions like it needs to.

So, since my bike didnt have these T vent tubes in it at all... where are these lines supposed to go? or did they just lead up nowhere.
Edit: I see that they come together and attach to a T (#20) where does that go then?

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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby old gringo » Wed May 09, 2012 1:04 pm

Mine are just routed to the rear of the engine
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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby cb650 » Wed May 09, 2012 1:13 pm

Originally it went to the airbox. But it can hang anywhere. As long as air (pressure) dont get to it.
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Re: Carb inlet replacemnt "T's" source??

Postby cb650 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:09 pm

OK here is one crappy pic of it. I have another pic but the site wont let me post it. Says its too big. My fone re sizes everything anyway. And considering the size of pics that get posted I'm surprised.
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